A conversation with Paul Krugman

We talk about data-driven journalism, polling, 2024, Trump and (of course) tariffs

Apr 12, 2025

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Dear readers,

I recorded a podcast with Paul Krugman, the Nobel Prize winner and former New York Times columnist who is now killing it on Substack, this past Monday, April 7. We had fun talking about Trump, tariffs, data journalism in general, and a bit about my personal story and approach to political analysis.

Here’s a fun picture of us smiling (/coping as the market imploded):

Things have changed a bit since we recorded (the stock market is no longer in free-fall, for example) but I think it’s still an informative and fun watch/listen. The video version of the podcast as well as the transcript is published over on Paul’s Substack:

Paul Krugman

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Let me know what you think in the comments.

Enjoy your weekend,

Elliott

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