Thanks for this analysis & the transparency around data and methodology. I’m seeing both 50501 and Alt National Park Service claim “official” turnout of 11-12M without any backing evidence. How long do you think it will take for these widely divergent good faith estimates to come into alignment?
Ely, MN. I estimate that, at noon, there were about 75 people total, standing on each side of the Main Street next to the park. (I’m not local, so I don’t know the names of places.) The crowd was cheerful and there were lots of great signs. My favorite “Know your parasites” with a drawing of a wood tick and of the President, labeled “wood tick” and “Luna tick.”
EVENTUALLY -- some brave media outlet will ask for -- and receive ? -- the National Parks Service estimate of the crowd in D.C. They (the National parks Service) will be cowed by Trump administration bullies -- and not want to get into a back and forth over "the biggest crowd E V E R" to watch a military parade in D.C . Because of the overcast -- there are no satellite photos...
The Washington Post didn't go near estimating coward size in its coverage -- but to say that the free-of-charge reviewing stand directly across from Trump's stand was "half empty."
Per my cartoon & Text -- https://scarythought.substack.com/p/i-love-a-parade-but-not-this-one -- no one will know the cost of this event unless Congress asks -- and only then after the fiscal year ends. $50 M estimate? $100 M reserve asked by the mayor's office to fix torn up streets?
For the mat people here -- what is the cost per attendee for $10s of millions of costs divided by 10s of thousands of parade attendees? = $ per attendee? And then ask how does this compare to _____ -- pick your program, recently cut by Trump?
12.1 million people showed up, not 4-5, this is grossly misleading and downplaying the absolute push back that is occuring due to racism, incompetence, and treason occuring from the White House and their supporters.
Just going by my city (San Diego), not long after the event was scheduled to end, the SDPD estimated 'over 60k', but people kept coming and by evening there were groups and news groups reporting 100,000. At this point, it's hard to know whether either of those estimates included other gatherings in SD city suburbs and there were several. Plus many of the surrounding smaller towns held their own events and were listed on the organizers websites. I'm hoping that in the next day or so, we might get a number for the entire county. In all of that there were no problems, altercations, violence, damages, or arrests. AND, I hope they count the baby carried in a sling by Mom and bearing a sign, "Babies Against Trump". Such a wonderful and inspiring end to a day that began with such tragic and violent news.
This is GREAT data, thank you so much for sharing it. Perfect timing, as I just finished listening to the interview of Erica Chenoweth on Pod Save America. I hadn't been aware of the 3.5% & 12 million targets before then. I live in Santa Clarita, CA, and have attended multiple rallies/protests this year, most of them in my home city. Yesterday's was by far the largest one I've seen. A few days ago they were reporting 2k, then 2.5k, then 3k preliminary signups. By yesterday the organizers were saying we'd crossed 4,000. And there was TONS of support from those driving by. We're a 50/50 swing district, and I really think these movements make a difference in where we swing but also showing support to the many in our community who must feel threatened by ICE raids and despairing of indifference.
The chart is missing Lexington and Bedford MA. I don’t know about Bedford, but Lexington packed in more than 2000 demonstrators with a stream of cars honking in support. So you’re probably missing many suburban actions. I would also count the Boston Pride and No Kings together and accept the 1 million.
I agree. Even Melrose saw its own protest of probably about 500 people. People came out in every community. Are these numbers being counted? Alt Nat Park estimates over 12 million
Thank you for this aggregation of data and estimation. So helpful!
Here is my anecdotal report. I was in a ruby red small city in TX that is the biggest city in the county, at 125,000 people. About a quarter of 1% of the population showed (300ish). There were about a dozen counter-protesters, but they were few and fairly silent. Lots of drivers honking in support. Police were friendly and positively engaged. Signs said things like “Jesus is my only king” and “I’m not red, I’m not blue, I love America how about you?” and “I served to protect the constitution, not a king.” Speakers here included veterans and clergy. All of this to say that this was not just Dems or “woke” people out here. The numbers might seem small, but they were an important slice of the population that is needed to speak out and be fearless in order to start shoving the decades long shadow off of the state.
I was in Chicago. I know there were supposed to be 5 or 6 in Suburban areas, but I only saw one of those listed in the chart, and there was another neighborhood in the city that had one attended by parents and children that was not listed. However I know some people that went to more than one. Chicagos competed with 2 community festivals, Puerto Rican and Thai, and then an art fair and a book fair. Still, over 100,000 people showed up even though thousands had been marching all week.
And then an updated one from Alt National Park Service (very active coalition group on facebook, they sent out 30,000 volunteers for yesterday) this morning said 12.1 million!
Thanks for this analysis & the transparency around data and methodology. I’m seeing both 50501 and Alt National Park Service claim “official” turnout of 11-12M without any backing evidence. How long do you think it will take for these widely divergent good faith estimates to come into alignment?
Ely, MN. I estimate that, at noon, there were about 75 people total, standing on each side of the Main Street next to the park. (I’m not local, so I don’t know the names of places.) The crowd was cheerful and there were lots of great signs. My favorite “Know your parasites” with a drawing of a wood tick and of the President, labeled “wood tick” and “Luna tick.”
Westfield, MA is an undercount. I did a walk around Park Sq and got about 625. I think the organizers were only counting sign-ups.
You can trust me, I was an enumerator for the census in 2010 lol
Commendations for all the hard work.
EVENTUALLY -- some brave media outlet will ask for -- and receive ? -- the National Parks Service estimate of the crowd in D.C. They (the National parks Service) will be cowed by Trump administration bullies -- and not want to get into a back and forth over "the biggest crowd E V E R" to watch a military parade in D.C . Because of the overcast -- there are no satellite photos...
The Washington Post didn't go near estimating coward size in its coverage -- but to say that the free-of-charge reviewing stand directly across from Trump's stand was "half empty."
Per my cartoon & Text -- https://scarythought.substack.com/p/i-love-a-parade-but-not-this-one -- no one will know the cost of this event unless Congress asks -- and only then after the fiscal year ends. $50 M estimate? $100 M reserve asked by the mayor's office to fix torn up streets?
For the mat people here -- what is the cost per attendee for $10s of millions of costs divided by 10s of thousands of parade attendees? = $ per attendee? And then ask how does this compare to _____ -- pick your program, recently cut by Trump?
I would guess estimating "coward size" would normally be tough, but certainly the Patriots were at the No Kings protests!
12.1 million people showed up, not 4-5, this is grossly misleading and downplaying the absolute push back that is occuring due to racism, incompetence, and treason occuring from the White House and their supporters.
I notice 50501 is claiming over 11 million. It's a number suspiciously close to the 3.5% magic number for toppling an authoritarian regime.
I would sure like to know how they got that crowd size estimate.
https://substack.com/@50501/note/c-126017279
Just going by my city (San Diego), not long after the event was scheduled to end, the SDPD estimated 'over 60k', but people kept coming and by evening there were groups and news groups reporting 100,000. At this point, it's hard to know whether either of those estimates included other gatherings in SD city suburbs and there were several. Plus many of the surrounding smaller towns held their own events and were listed on the organizers websites. I'm hoping that in the next day or so, we might get a number for the entire county. In all of that there were no problems, altercations, violence, damages, or arrests. AND, I hope they count the baby carried in a sling by Mom and bearing a sign, "Babies Against Trump". Such a wonderful and inspiring end to a day that began with such tragic and violent news.
Let’s flood news agencies with photos and videos of us out yesterday! We deserve the right, honest coverage across ALL news agencies.
Tell them and Congress 12.1 million Americans protested (current count by Alt National Park Service coalition via Facebook).
Use/share this spreadsheet as a resource to call/email/write members of Congress, the Cabinet and news organizations.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13lYafj0P-6owAJcH-5_xcpcRvMUZI7rkBPW-Ma9e7hw/edit?usp=drivesdk
This is GREAT data, thank you so much for sharing it. Perfect timing, as I just finished listening to the interview of Erica Chenoweth on Pod Save America. I hadn't been aware of the 3.5% & 12 million targets before then. I live in Santa Clarita, CA, and have attended multiple rallies/protests this year, most of them in my home city. Yesterday's was by far the largest one I've seen. A few days ago they were reporting 2k, then 2.5k, then 3k preliminary signups. By yesterday the organizers were saying we'd crossed 4,000. And there was TONS of support from those driving by. We're a 50/50 swing district, and I really think these movements make a difference in where we swing but also showing support to the many in our community who must feel threatened by ICE raids and despairing of indifference.
same here with just listening to that podcast ep then finding this! didn’t know about it either, super interesting
The chart is missing Lexington and Bedford MA. I don’t know about Bedford, but Lexington packed in more than 2000 demonstrators with a stream of cars honking in support. So you’re probably missing many suburban actions. I would also count the Boston Pride and No Kings together and accept the 1 million.
For sure, Boston Pride wasn't out in SUPPORT of the orange regime!!
I agree. Even Melrose saw its own protest of probably about 500 people. People came out in every community. Are these numbers being counted? Alt Nat Park estimates over 12 million
Thank you for this aggregation of data and estimation. So helpful!
Here is my anecdotal report. I was in a ruby red small city in TX that is the biggest city in the county, at 125,000 people. About a quarter of 1% of the population showed (300ish). There were about a dozen counter-protesters, but they were few and fairly silent. Lots of drivers honking in support. Police were friendly and positively engaged. Signs said things like “Jesus is my only king” and “I’m not red, I’m not blue, I love America how about you?” and “I served to protect the constitution, not a king.” Speakers here included veterans and clergy. All of this to say that this was not just Dems or “woke” people out here. The numbers might seem small, but they were an important slice of the population that is needed to speak out and be fearless in order to start shoving the decades long shadow off of the state.
I estimate about 2000 in Memphis TN.
I was in Chicago. I know there were supposed to be 5 or 6 in Suburban areas, but I only saw one of those listed in the chart, and there was another neighborhood in the city that had one attended by parents and children that was not listed. However I know some people that went to more than one. Chicagos competed with 2 community festivals, Puerto Rican and Thai, and then an art fair and a book fair. Still, over 100,000 people showed up even though thousands had been marching all week.
also randolph street fest! i went there after the protests and saw a lot of other protesters there too
Agreed. There are a lot of smaller protests not being included. We had ~ 2,000 in our small community alone.
50501 actually reported that over 11 million protested, so actually close to 3.5%
And then an updated one from Alt National Park Service (very active coalition group on facebook, they sent out 30,000 volunteers for yesterday) this morning said 12.1 million!
Wow!
Is Florida a lost cause for dems? I heard the No Kings Rally there was anemic
Rick Wilson was out in very red Tallahalsee, showed video of large crowds, and said the demonstration was by far the largest he'd ever seen there.
I watched some Florida news reports, and it looked like at least three cities, including Miami, had significant turnouts.
Yes