I was serching for confirmation if the Chenoweth 3.5% threshold had been met. Is this it? I have friends and family who are skeptical if the demonstrations are "doing any good." Now, of course, they will continue to sit one thier ax using the 3.7% as an excuse. I am 78 and remember the protests against the Viet Nam war, e.g. the 1968 Democratice convention in Chicago. The protests started slow but eventually carried the day. Tricky Dick Nixon slowed things down for his election (sound familiar?) plus killed perhaps a million people who didn't need to die. Haven't we had ENOUGH of Republican rule?!
When you say "at least 12.8 million people, or 3.7% of the population," are those 12.8 different people, or 12.8 million, counting the same protestors more than once?
Where is the most central place for people to report their rallies? I've been pointing people at Crowd Counting Consortium. I love your spreadsheet, but I fear most people won't know how to make an entry. I also point people at mapchecking.com as a tool to estimate their crowd size. Any comments on that?
Fantastic work! Two suggestions: 1. Sort the spreadsheet on the city column, to make it easier for people to find their city, or more importantly smaller rallies within their city. 2. Word wrap the top cell where you talk about partnering with The Xylom. Most of the words don't show up if not wrapped.
Thank you for working at 2 a.m. to get the information to us.
According to an attendee I know, at least 150 people turned out in Plymouth, Indiana, and Marshall County is pretty red in terms of those who actually vote.
You have Davenport and Des Moines, Iowa at 2,000 each, but the Quad-City Times estimates 4,000 for Davenport and I'm sure Des Moines was much larger than 2,000. I'm not good at judging crowd size but I have seen estimates between 5,000 and 10,000.
I've been touching base with contacts all over Iowa today. My best estimate is around 30,000 people showed up, but it could be a little less or it could be as many as 35,000. (I have not been able to find a solid crowd estimate for the biggest rally in Des Moines, which certainly had thousands of people.)
The population of Iowa is around 3.2 million so it appears that close to 1 percent of residents showed up today.
Enormously useful work. On the crowd-sourced forms, can you clarify the process for updating crowd numbers. Or maybe create new columns so people can submit credible links to updated numbers without overwriting the original, or having to fill out the whole separate form. That way your team can compare them.
I'm in Seattle, for instance. Our NBC affiliate, KING TV said attendance was nearly 90,000, while the current estimate just says 20,001. King's said the larger number does come from organizers, but from my experience, everyone I talked with, and how long the march stretched, it was far larger than the June one estimated at 70,000.
Here's the article with the nearly 90,000 estimate
So would like an easier way for people to add updates of this kind, without overwriting what's originally posted--perhaps by adding a couple of additional columns.
I'm also in Seattle. I suspect the 20K number might be from rally at Seattle Central on Capital HIll? I haven't seen any report on that rally, but might explain the number you saw. There were also many small rallies around town (e.g., Ballard, West Seattle, Shoreline; ...) but the spreadsheet seems to accommodate those with addresses.
Will do. But can you clarify that process a bit more on the spreadsheet instructions so it's clear for other people as well? I suspect there will be a lot of places where initial media estimates are low, but then later stories come up with additional coverage with larger numbers.
This is fantastic work of sourcing reports of crowds across many, many geographies, small to large. I am hopeful that people will keep updating the numbers on the spreadsheet in the upcoming days. Bravo
I demonstrated at a NO KINGS protest in Bremen, Germany yesterday. Because I am a member of Indivisible Abroad as well as Indivisible Chicago, I was getting reports of demonstrations around the world as well. For example Paris reported over 1000 people at their demonstration. I don't know the numbers in Ireland. Our demonstration had about 110-120 people and some were Germans, and some American and German, but there were people from another country at ours as well. There were 3 other official demonstrations in Germany (Berlin, Nuremberg, Frankfurt), and I know several in other European countries had demonstrations too. While I did not hear from Mexico they had several cities involved in the June No Kings, so I am sure they did this time as well. So, of the presumed 7-11 million Americans living abroad a portion of those demonstrated too along with people from the countries we live in. It might be too complicated for you to assess, but we registered our count with Indivisible.
I was serching for confirmation if the Chenoweth 3.5% threshold had been met. Is this it? I have friends and family who are skeptical if the demonstrations are "doing any good." Now, of course, they will continue to sit one thier ax using the 3.7% as an excuse. I am 78 and remember the protests against the Viet Nam war, e.g. the 1968 Democratice convention in Chicago. The protests started slow but eventually carried the day. Tricky Dick Nixon slowed things down for his election (sound familiar?) plus killed perhaps a million people who didn't need to die. Haven't we had ENOUGH of Republican rule?!
When you say "at least 12.8 million people, or 3.7% of the population," are those 12.8 different people, or 12.8 million, counting the same protestors more than once?
Where is the most central place for people to report their rallies? I've been pointing people at Crowd Counting Consortium. I love your spreadsheet, but I fear most people won't know how to make an entry. I also point people at mapchecking.com as a tool to estimate their crowd size. Any comments on that?
Fantastic work! Two suggestions: 1. Sort the spreadsheet on the city column, to make it easier for people to find their city, or more importantly smaller rallies within their city. 2. Word wrap the top cell where you talk about partnering with The Xylom. Most of the words don't show up if not wrapped.
Thank you for working at 2 a.m. to get the information to us.
According to an attendee I know, at least 150 people turned out in Plymouth, Indiana, and Marshall County is pretty red in terms of those who actually vote.
You have Davenport and Des Moines, Iowa at 2,000 each, but the Quad-City Times estimates 4,000 for Davenport and I'm sure Des Moines was much larger than 2,000. I'm not good at judging crowd size but I have seen estimates between 5,000 and 10,000.
I've been touching base with contacts all over Iowa today. My best estimate is around 30,000 people showed up, but it could be a little less or it could be as many as 35,000. (I have not been able to find a solid crowd estimate for the biggest rally in Des Moines, which certainly had thousands of people.)
The population of Iowa is around 3.2 million so it appears that close to 1 percent of residents showed up today.
Enormously useful work. On the crowd-sourced forms, can you clarify the process for updating crowd numbers. Or maybe create new columns so people can submit credible links to updated numbers without overwriting the original, or having to fill out the whole separate form. That way your team can compare them.
I'm in Seattle, for instance. Our NBC affiliate, KING TV said attendance was nearly 90,000, while the current estimate just says 20,001. King's said the larger number does come from organizers, but from my experience, everyone I talked with, and how long the march stretched, it was far larger than the June one estimated at 70,000.
Here's the article with the nearly 90,000 estimate
https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/seattle-no-kings-march/281-b39a6ac5-93cf-4542-902b-e1bfd8c31f9d
So would like an easier way for people to add updates of this kind, without overwriting what's originally posted--perhaps by adding a couple of additional columns.
Yes. add sources in the green cells, we will update them in the gray. (Or you can add a comment)
I'm also in Seattle. I suspect the 20K number might be from rally at Seattle Central on Capital HIll? I haven't seen any report on that rally, but might explain the number you saw. There were also many small rallies around town (e.g., Ballard, West Seattle, Shoreline; ...) but the spreadsheet seems to accommodate those with addresses.
Will do. But can you clarify that process a bit more on the spreadsheet instructions so it's clear for other people as well? I suspect there will be a lot of places where initial media estimates are low, but then later stories come up with additional coverage with larger numbers.
This is fantastic work of sourcing reports of crowds across many, many geographies, small to large. I am hopeful that people will keep updating the numbers on the spreadsheet in the upcoming days. Bravo
Also I don't see a comment column. Can you add one?
I demonstrated at a NO KINGS protest in Bremen, Germany yesterday. Because I am a member of Indivisible Abroad as well as Indivisible Chicago, I was getting reports of demonstrations around the world as well. For example Paris reported over 1000 people at their demonstration. I don't know the numbers in Ireland. Our demonstration had about 110-120 people and some were Germans, and some American and German, but there were people from another country at ours as well. There were 3 other official demonstrations in Germany (Berlin, Nuremberg, Frankfurt), and I know several in other European countries had demonstrations too. While I did not hear from Mexico they had several cities involved in the June No Kings, so I am sure they did this time as well. So, of the presumed 7-11 million Americans living abroad a portion of those demonstrated too along with people from the countries we live in. It might be too complicated for you to assess, but we registered our count with Indivisible.
Chicago's No Kings rally was triumphant. Thank you for representing abroad.
Jody, I saw pictures and it looks great! Friends sent me pics of great signs. In Solidarity! ✌🏽
Nit: the Y axis label in the scatterplot says July but your text implies it should say October.
Sorry, thanks.
This is now fixed in the online version.