That speaks to the stupidity of cult Democratic Party voters. Polls in March said most Democrats wanted Harris to run again. She would lose mightily. It is shocking that Democratic voters are so out of touch with reality.
I will not be voting for any candidate who takes pro-Israel money, voted against a ceasefire, and continued to vote for weaponry to Israel til the end of Biden/Harris’ term. I will not vote for any corporate, centrist candidate or faux progressive. No to Rahm, Booker, Harris, Shapiro, Buttigieg, Rahm, Walz, Pritzger, Whitmer, Murphy, Beshear, Warnock, Polis, etc.
I’ve been voting for 51 years. But I’m proud to say I did not vote for Trump nor did I vote for Biden nor Harris. The United States is declining rapidly and people keep voting for the same damn thing.
The problem with Bernie is that he brings the same thing Trump does. My opinion, but I believe it is bad for the country; they are the opposite sides of the same coin. He is also 'difficult' to work for and he is a controller.
I see that he brings his progressive policies that cross both sides of the aisle, like Medicare for all, childcare, significant climate change, student loan forgiveness, reducing economic inequality and expanding social programs and workers' rights. Those are policies that play favorably on the left and the right. If you did any research, you would find out that both side the aisle in Congress find Bernie very pleasant and fair to work with.
Bernie has two characteristics that affect his popularity (1) he is genuine. (2) he disparages the system. He's always been this way. It is the zeitgeist that has changed.
I remember when I was young being told I could be President one day if I wanted, my sisters were told the same thing, we told our kids that and so on and so on. Then someone not part of the problem actually ran for the office and we lost our minds over him. Why? He was one of us why did he leave? But instead of inflection we threw vitriol, then cheered when he lost in 2020, then we tried to assassinate his character then charged him with a whole bunch of things then when none of those worked we dehumanized him everyday until someone actually tried to assassinate him. And again instead of inflection at the thought of someone trying to kill a man who wants to fix things that are seriously wrong now, we decide it was his fault because he says mean things to some people. Yet not a word about calling him and his followers Nazi’s and threats to the Constitution etc etc.
Sorry but quit the party because it became blatantly obvious we are the true threat to our country. We try to take away peoples rights to simply disagree by calling them ists and phobes. We dehumanize them then attack and destroy their possessions and call it protesting, no it’s not. Not by a long shot. Protesting is destroying your own possessions not someone else’s (remember mom and dad saying if it’s not yours don’t break it? If not have a talk with them and ask them about it)
So until anyone for the party comes out and actually says something that tells me they still care about this country, then I will never vote for another democrat ever again. Doesn’t mean I’m voting for any republican either. But democrats have a lot of explaining to do.
The populist explanation seems plausible, but insufficient, for Sanders's unique popularity in these polls. I think the dearth of non-YouGov surveys is a problem, especially given his lack of success even in the Democratic primary electorate.
(Also, the unscientific sample of comments below suggest that MAGA, at best, tolerates Sanders only when he's perceived to go against the Democrats. Not supporting a candidare who opposes everything he stood for save for protectionism is "selling out," apparently.)
is certainly electable, but democratic Voters are told by Dem leadership & allied media that he is not. DNC use “electability” to gaslight their voters & convince them to vote for their preferred corporate candidate, cult de voters vote for it every single time. We told you, Hillary would lose, and we told you Harris would lose. Not because they are women, but because their unfavorable ratings are far too high. Hillary was too haughty & a war hawk, too centrist and corporate, and Harris was the same but worse because she was so in authentic and complicit in genocide. Statistics show that her part in the US/Israel genocide was a significant factor why she lost. And of Democrats think running her again people will forget, they are making a huge error in judgment
I became a Trump supporter as soon as he announced his agenda in 2015, but Bernie was my clear second choice (they both had virtually the same agenda back then). Once Trump eviscerated Jeb! in the debates I didn't think about Bernie too much, but I was hoping for a Trump vs. Bernie general election so we could rid ourselves of BOTH party establishments. Then he sold out to Hilary and the neocons at the Democrat Convention and started singing their tune. Bernie is dead to me.
The question is: "What magic is he conjuring?"---which is a false premise: There is no magic. Instead, Sanders, as do his peers, simply relies on a decades-long failure of our educational system to teach the failures of socialism, resulting in its empty promises being taken for fact. Keep 'em dumb, blather on as if your argue has substance, etc.
Polls produced by who knows who for who knows what purpose. Though both Bernie and certainly AOC may be contenders in 2028, Democrats have more plausible candidates, like governors Shapiro and Newsom and Rahm Emanuel.
You’re dead wrong. I was a Democratic Party delegate for many years and I can tell you that a significant reason Harris lost was for her support for Israel and her complicity in genocide.. Shapiro and Rahm are both extreme pro-Israel. Newsom has a better chance (but I still will likely not vote for him).
Newsom has lost already. Not sure he can bring it back. His one hope was democrats, he has now lost a good bit of them. The other side would never vote for him, ever; they never were.
Pritzker may demolish Rahm in Il, but IL may be the ONLY state he wins. If Rahm gets endorsements from Obama and Clinton and advice from Akselrod, he will be a formidable contender.
That tells you exactly how insanely stupid Democrat voters are. You have to be a low IQ, mentally ill, fool to think Bernie Sanders or AOC are a good idea to lead anything.
And yet it’s the democrats base out destroying things that do not belong to them, like little children throwing a tantrum, or they’ve been brainwashed into doing the elites in the DNC bidding. Democrats don’t want discourse they want destruction, trying to claim it’s the only thing Republicans understand, when it’s actually the reverse. Why are Dems so comfortable with their leaders taking openly about running the country like a Marxist/Communist state? Talk about a threat to the Constitution.
I have always been a fan of Bernie Sanders. A lot of my friends are now seeing why I have been a fan. To me he is now the defacto leader of the Democratic Party. He is the only one that could save them. The DNC knew this and that’s why Clyburn endorsed Biden after he said that he was not going to do that. Finally the DNC is no longer relevant and they need Bernie Sanders. If I were Pritzker I would hang with Bernie Sanders. AOC is doing the right thing and she might be the next Senator of New York. Schumer is no longer relevant and Hakeem Jeffries is most likely to be replaced.
The party establishment is rotten to the core. Unless Bernie adopts their toxic neocon policies, they will sabotage him 100%. I'm convinced the Democrat leaders would rather deal with Vance (or Trump) for another four years than Bernie.
That speaks to the stupidity of cult Democratic Party voters. Polls in March said most Democrats wanted Harris to run again. She would lose mightily. It is shocking that Democratic voters are so out of touch with reality.
I will not be voting for any candidate who takes pro-Israel money, voted against a ceasefire, and continued to vote for weaponry to Israel til the end of Biden/Harris’ term. I will not vote for any corporate, centrist candidate or faux progressive. No to Rahm, Booker, Harris, Shapiro, Buttigieg, Rahm, Walz, Pritzger, Whitmer, Murphy, Beshear, Warnock, Polis, etc.
Too bad Bernie supporters don't vote
I’ve been voting for 51 years. But I’m proud to say I did not vote for Trump nor did I vote for Biden nor Harris. The United States is declining rapidly and people keep voting for the same damn thing.
The problem with Bernie is that he brings the same thing Trump does. My opinion, but I believe it is bad for the country; they are the opposite sides of the same coin. He is also 'difficult' to work for and he is a controller.
What does he bring?
I see that he brings his progressive policies that cross both sides of the aisle, like Medicare for all, childcare, significant climate change, student loan forgiveness, reducing economic inequality and expanding social programs and workers' rights. Those are policies that play favorably on the left and the right. If you did any research, you would find out that both side the aisle in Congress find Bernie very pleasant and fair to work with.
Ask yourself: What would John McCain do if he was still with us?
Bernie has two characteristics that affect his popularity (1) he is genuine. (2) he disparages the system. He's always been this way. It is the zeitgeist that has changed.
Bernie is too old so is not really in the running.
I’d vote for Bernie in a heartbeat for a one year term as long as he had a younger vibrant progressive VP like AOC.
I remember when I was young being told I could be President one day if I wanted, my sisters were told the same thing, we told our kids that and so on and so on. Then someone not part of the problem actually ran for the office and we lost our minds over him. Why? He was one of us why did he leave? But instead of inflection we threw vitriol, then cheered when he lost in 2020, then we tried to assassinate his character then charged him with a whole bunch of things then when none of those worked we dehumanized him everyday until someone actually tried to assassinate him. And again instead of inflection at the thought of someone trying to kill a man who wants to fix things that are seriously wrong now, we decide it was his fault because he says mean things to some people. Yet not a word about calling him and his followers Nazi’s and threats to the Constitution etc etc.
Sorry but quit the party because it became blatantly obvious we are the true threat to our country. We try to take away peoples rights to simply disagree by calling them ists and phobes. We dehumanize them then attack and destroy their possessions and call it protesting, no it’s not. Not by a long shot. Protesting is destroying your own possessions not someone else’s (remember mom and dad saying if it’s not yours don’t break it? If not have a talk with them and ask them about it)
So until anyone for the party comes out and actually says something that tells me they still care about this country, then I will never vote for another democrat ever again. Doesn’t mean I’m voting for any republican either. But democrats have a lot of explaining to do.
The populist explanation seems plausible, but insufficient, for Sanders's unique popularity in these polls. I think the dearth of non-YouGov surveys is a problem, especially given his lack of success even in the Democratic primary electorate.
(Also, the unscientific sample of comments below suggest that MAGA, at best, tolerates Sanders only when he's perceived to go against the Democrats. Not supporting a candidare who opposes everything he stood for save for protectionism is "selling out," apparently.)
is certainly electable, but democratic Voters are told by Dem leadership & allied media that he is not. DNC use “electability” to gaslight their voters & convince them to vote for their preferred corporate candidate, cult de voters vote for it every single time. We told you, Hillary would lose, and we told you Harris would lose. Not because they are women, but because their unfavorable ratings are far too high. Hillary was too haughty & a war hawk, too centrist and corporate, and Harris was the same but worse because she was so in authentic and complicit in genocide. Statistics show that her part in the US/Israel genocide was a significant factor why she lost. And of Democrats think running her again people will forget, they are making a huge error in judgment
I became a Trump supporter as soon as he announced his agenda in 2015, but Bernie was my clear second choice (they both had virtually the same agenda back then). Once Trump eviscerated Jeb! in the debates I didn't think about Bernie too much, but I was hoping for a Trump vs. Bernie general election so we could rid ourselves of BOTH party establishments. Then he sold out to Hilary and the neocons at the Democrat Convention and started singing their tune. Bernie is dead to me.
The question is: "What magic is he conjuring?"---which is a false premise: There is no magic. Instead, Sanders, as do his peers, simply relies on a decades-long failure of our educational system to teach the failures of socialism, resulting in its empty promises being taken for fact. Keep 'em dumb, blather on as if your argue has substance, etc.
LOLOLOL
The result of decades of dumbing down public education.
Polls produced by who knows who for who knows what purpose. Though both Bernie and certainly AOC may be contenders in 2028, Democrats have more plausible candidates, like governors Shapiro and Newsom and Rahm Emanuel.
You’re dead wrong. I was a Democratic Party delegate for many years and I can tell you that a significant reason Harris lost was for her support for Israel and her complicity in genocide.. Shapiro and Rahm are both extreme pro-Israel. Newsom has a better chance (but I still will likely not vote for him).
I am a bit lost. Could you define genocide, please?
Newsom has lost already. Not sure he can bring it back. His one hope was democrats, he has now lost a good bit of them. The other side would never vote for him, ever; they never were.
Rahm Emmanuel will not even win Illinois as Pritzker will demolish him!!
Pritzker may demolish Rahm in Il, but IL may be the ONLY state he wins. If Rahm gets endorsements from Obama and Clinton and advice from Akselrod, he will be a formidable contender.
Rahm Emanuel, yeah right....
Rahm proved himself as a capable money raised and many owe him, since he organized Dem recapture of Congress.
If Rahm gets endorsements from Obama and Clinton and advice from Akselrod, he will be a formidable contender.
Not a chance in hell. A good portion of Democrats dislike Rahm intensely.
That tells you exactly how insanely stupid Democrat voters are. You have to be a low IQ, mentally ill, fool to think Bernie Sanders or AOC are a good idea to lead anything.
Yet another example of "every Republican accusation is a confession"
And yet it’s the democrats base out destroying things that do not belong to them, like little children throwing a tantrum, or they’ve been brainwashed into doing the elites in the DNC bidding. Democrats don’t want discourse they want destruction, trying to claim it’s the only thing Republicans understand, when it’s actually the reverse. Why are Dems so comfortable with their leaders taking openly about running the country like a Marxist/Communist state? Talk about a threat to the Constitution.
Everything you say is the opposite of what is reality
I have always been a fan of Bernie Sanders. A lot of my friends are now seeing why I have been a fan. To me he is now the defacto leader of the Democratic Party. He is the only one that could save them. The DNC knew this and that’s why Clyburn endorsed Biden after he said that he was not going to do that. Finally the DNC is no longer relevant and they need Bernie Sanders. If I were Pritzker I would hang with Bernie Sanders. AOC is doing the right thing and she might be the next Senator of New York. Schumer is no longer relevant and Hakeem Jeffries is most likely to be replaced.
lol
Bernie is the only pick for 2028. But I don't trust dems to not sabotage him again. He needs to take his own advice and run independent.
The party establishment is rotten to the core. Unless Bernie adopts their toxic neocon policies, they will sabotage him 100%. I'm convinced the Democrat leaders would rather deal with Vance (or Trump) for another four years than Bernie.
What about governor Shapiro? Rahm Emanuel? Governor Newsom?