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Greg Rogers's avatar

Interesting distinction, asking about support for deportation in one group (half the sample or 500 people) vs. second group, first presenting a fact about mistaken deportation (I must add, as admitted to judge by DoJ lawyer) then asking about support for deportation.

The latter method of first presenting a relevant fact had a difference of 4 percentage points (aside from flipping outcome from majority For to Against). Curious if 4 points was outside the margin of error.

As well, the cost of rigor to use test groups with different ways to ask a question to ensure the responses given are to what the intended research question is. An area difficult enough, I am not sure I wrote this statement correctly.

Discussion appeals to my B.S. in Statistics but without poll/survey background.

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jibal jibal's avatar

Sorry, no empathy for people who are willfully ignorant and gullible because of their xenophobia and bigotry and nodding at lie after lie after lie from Fox News etc. -- that's a *choice*. Not ideological? Give me a break ... the people of Kinnick are *extremely* ideological.

That said, such attitudes didn't *have to* become so prominent and effective (as in policies actually being implemented). You said that the media isn't necessarily "pernicious" ... I have to wonder whether you know what that word means, because your own evidence shows very much that the consequences of the behavior of media corporations is pernicious. As for whether it's "malicious" ... there would be no question if talking about Fox or RSBN or Newsmax ... or Sinclair, or Jeff Bezos and Patrick Soon-Shiong cancelling editorial endorsements. No major media corporation is a neutral party (e.g., "lack of resources" isn't an act of God) ... if they were, their behaviors would be very different. Just imagine how they would report on Trump and his administration if they were located in some African or South American nation rather than in the U.S.

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Joel Murphy's avatar

I think that in order to have a democratic society that can govern itself, the people need to agree on the facts. We don't have that now. Can you poll that? If so, please do! Near the end of your cast the civil war was brought up. I am starting to see our civil war as a kind in crystalization (seed crystal) of the Christian nationalism that we're seeing now.

It is a real and serious 'side narrative' of the reality that people outside the 'white right' movement ever thought could happen.

Seduction. Some politicians are complicit, some were dupes. Some media were complicit, some were dupes. We, the people were not taught media literacy, so we were the suckers.

It is time to un-fuck the news! Follow Jonathan Larson!

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G. Elliott Morris's avatar

We can poll on facts!

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Megan Rothery's avatar

Call. Write. Email. Unrelentingly.

Use/share this spreadsheet as a resource to call/email/write members of Congress, the Cabinet and news organizations. Reach out to your own reps, as well as those in other states on a specific committee important to a topic you’re sharing. Use your voice and make some “good trouble.”

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13lYafj0P-6owAJcH-5_xcpcRvMUZI7rkBPW-Ma9e7hw/edit?usp=drivesdk

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