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I talk about my Friday column with Ryan Lizza

The 2025 election, much like 2024, was about economic anxiety and anti-incumbent sentiment — and offers few lessons about the ideological direction of the Democratic Party

Readers

Ryan Lizza, the independent journalist formerly of CNN and POLITICO, asked me to do an interview with him on Friday about my new column on the outcome of Tuesday’s elections. In this conversation I make several bold claims, such as:

  • Trump is unpopular and that’s why Republicans lost on Tuesday

  • If Trump continues to be unpopular, Republicans will struggle in the 2026 midterms

  • Realignments are realignments by definition only if they stick

  • People read way too much into narrow debates about ideology and issue positions after the 2024 election, blinding them to trends that would have helped predict 2025 (and 2026/28)

  • Anti-incumbent sentiment is currently the driving force in American politics

  • Democrats should think about politics not as happening on a 1-dimensional left-right ideological spectrum, but a cartesian plane with a vertical pro/anti-system axis too

I also reference data from my Tuesday column.

Have a nice weekend!

Elliott

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